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mimesere ([personal profile] mimesere) wrote2007-04-07 08:32 pm
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oh *fandom*

sometimes you make me want to cry. and/or punch people.

but hey! On the other hand, now I totally know who to avoid in fandom! So...that's a plus. *tries to look on the bright side*

(god, it JUST KEEPS GOING and horrifies me more and more).

ETA: the posts in question
In which Teyla and Ronon are white! No, really! - I swear, the more I hear about race relations in, um, England/Ireland/Wales/Scotland/what-have-you, the less likely I am to ever ever go there.

and!

In which the reason there's not more fic about characters of color is because they are not leads! or not hot enough! or interesting enough! Because when they *are*, there's a lot of fic! No, really!

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 07:32 am (UTC)(link)
*raises hand timidly*

I wasn't initially aware that Ronon's not white, but that's cos he looked a bit pale in some of the early pics I saw.

Re: Britain... I've been told we're more "casually racist" without meaning to be. This is probably true. Visiting Americans may have indeed met a phenomenon where once they're opened their mouth they lose a fair bit in the way of colour and become one of those terrible Yankees who oppress us with their Coca-Cola and their Hollywood movies.


I don't write about black characters because they don't get written about and it would be very wrong to change that. I prefer writing about well-developed white guys who have a total of three lines in as many seasons of telly.

[identity profile] mimesere.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Heee. I think I can intellectually understand how people could not see Jason Momoa as being a person of color, 'cause he is awfully pale for a Pacific Islander, but...like, on a gut level, I don't get it. Because I looked at him and went, "Heeeeey, I think he's one of mine! Awesome!" and I am very weirdly protective of all, like, two actors who are A/PI.

Damn our cultural oppression of the world! Damn us to hell!

And well, you know, black characters are just so boring and poorly-developed. If only they had the vast and stunning array of characterization and backstory that a character like John Sheppard has!

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't think of any black characters who are as painstakingly developed as Sheppard!

[identity profile] mimesere.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, right?

And god, those black characters, like, I just don't *get* them, you know? Because they listen to weird music and...stuff. It's much easier to imagine being a 240 year old vampire! Because my life experience is so similar!

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 07:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Word. I'm really worried about writing Doctor Who fic now that the chick in it is black. How am I supposed to know how to write a young woman from modern times with a university education and who'd shag Ten? MARTHA IS NOTHING LIKE ME.

[identity profile] mimesere.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, it's SO HARD!

Like, I have problems writing someone like Gunn because, you know, how on earth am I supposed to write a movie-loving comics nerd from Southern California? We have nothing in common!

[identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com 2007-04-11 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Luckily there is still a white guy in it. He beige like me!