oh *fandom*

[mimesere]

sometimes you make me want to cry. and/or punch people.

but hey! On the other hand, now I totally know who to avoid in fandom! So...that's a plus. *tries to look on the bright side*

(god, it JUST KEEPS GOING and horrifies me more and more).

ETA: the posts in question
In which Teyla and Ronon are white! No, really! - I swear, the more I hear about race relations in, um, England/Ireland/Wales/Scotland/what-have-you, the less likely I am to ever ever go there.

and!

In which the reason there's not more fic about characters of color is because they are not leads! or not hot enough! or interesting enough! Because when they *are*, there's a lot of fic! No, really!

Comments

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

*nod* I just. Hm. apetslife's post bothers me because I feel that it's a disingenuous way of avoiding/justifying the problem of a lack of fic or fan-created media about characters of color. Not necessarily *hers*, but I have heard people say, "I would write characters of color if they weren't all boring!" and it raises my hackles. Because...really? We're fine writing the same old white characters time and time again, but the characters of color are boring? And then, on top of that, there's the notion of a credited cast member being called support and saying that's a reason there's not more fic. When, um, really, I'm pretty sure there's more Lorne/Parrish fic than there is Teyla fic and that's just wrong.

I am very irritated by the whole thing. And growing more irritated by the day! It is a fun feeling.

[nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com]

Lorne/Parrish I will never quite understand.

[skywardprodigal.livejournal.com]

I get that some black characters, or coc's, will come across as boring. Anti-heroe coc of rare, few and far between. I think much of that has to do with wanting to combat the 'black people=bad'. What I find amusing is that so many non-Americans are, "Race problem? We don't have the race problems. That's America. (Or South Africa) but not us enlightened Europeans. And I flat out think it's bullshit when Australians claim not to have race problems, because, hello. Y'all have "blacks" too. And it's not cute what's been happening down there for, oh, about as long as you white folk has settled.

*sigh*

Anyway...not to pick on apl specifically but that coc=boring is frustrating. And...disingenuous. And yet, that argument (or 'reasoning') is brought forth again and again with such sincerity. Such is privilege. It makes it so that people don't even see what's what.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I remember the first time the "If there were more interesting COCs, I would write them!" argument was trotted out in front of me and I went *ballistic*. Because it takes a pretty spectacular set of blinders on to dismiss the entire literary and media history of characters of color and to say that *every one of them* is boring.

It makes me insane.