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mimesere ([personal profile] mimesere) wrote2007-04-07 08:32 pm
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oh *fandom*

sometimes you make me want to cry. and/or punch people.

but hey! On the other hand, now I totally know who to avoid in fandom! So...that's a plus. *tries to look on the bright side*

(god, it JUST KEEPS GOING and horrifies me more and more).

ETA: the posts in question
In which Teyla and Ronon are white! No, really! - I swear, the more I hear about race relations in, um, England/Ireland/Wales/Scotland/what-have-you, the less likely I am to ever ever go there.

and!

In which the reason there's not more fic about characters of color is because they are not leads! or not hot enough! or interesting enough! Because when they *are*, there's a lot of fic! No, really!

[identity profile] galadhir.livejournal.com 2007-04-09 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, absolutely, there's a hell of a lot of history out there, which is why I don't think it's possible to know what the map of racism is in another culture without at least a serious amount of study, or preferably living there. I have no idea to what extent having Moorish ancestors is seen in Spain as being less Spanish - if at all.

I know that the Greeks and the Turks are bitter enemies, but that seems to be despite the fact that most Greeks will have some Turkish blood. Why - given that's the case - we in Britain would define Greeks as white and Turks as not-white, I don't know. But I don't suppose any racial classification system is exactly based on reason. Which is, again, why the local nuances are so hard to guess when you're looking at them from a different culture.