I would not identify most people of Mediterranean descent to be of color. Like, I recognize that they do not identify themselves as such and, generally speaking, European doesn't ping for me that way.
For a lot of people, and this is especially true with Central and South America, it's not just an issue of what color you are or where your parents hail from or whatever; there are issues of class and discrimination and religion and all of that other stuff that goes into it. And there is also the question of the separate subculture between Spain and Central and South America. I try to be really careful of it (also with the Portuguese rather than Spanish in Brazil thing), but it's all...messy.
Ditto the Caribbean. Ditto the Pacific Islands. It's all just...messy and there isn't one answer of "Yes, this person is white because..." or "this person is of color because...."
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Date: 2008-04-27 05:19 am (UTC)For a lot of people, and this is especially true with Central and South America, it's not just an issue of what color you are or where your parents hail from or whatever; there are issues of class and discrimination and religion and all of that other stuff that goes into it. And there is also the question of the separate subculture between Spain and Central and South America. I try to be really careful of it (also with the Portuguese rather than Spanish in Brazil thing), but it's all...messy.
Ditto the Caribbean. Ditto the Pacific Islands. It's all just...messy and there isn't one answer of "Yes, this person is white because..." or "this person is of color because...."