well, that's not what I expected

[mimesere]

Green Arrow: Archer's Quest was inspired by Coupling's *porn buddies* gag? *Seriously*?

I still all a-flail over Donna and Roy. I'm assuming -- er, 'cause a) it's Roy and b) I'm pretty sure I saw at least one panel of them kissing -- that Donna and Roy had the mad crazy hookup at *some* point. And now they have what seems to be a bizarrely non-sexualized relationship. I don't care. There was like, a grand total of three pages of Roy Loving Donna Like Whoa in the entirety of The Death and Life of Donna Troy and I imprinted on it like a baby duckling.

Also, re-reading Archer's Quest made me want some Roy/Dinah funereal comfortsex. Look, it's not pretty, but there you have it. How old was Roy? I'll totally write that.

And, okay, seriously, does Roy get his ass handed to him on a regular basis? Because it seems somehow unfair that he got shot and beaten all to hell and also stabbed in the throat. Or is that just a result of Arrow family's sort of "Look! There's danger! I WILL RUN DIRECTLY AT IT! WOO!" approach to crimefighting? Because Connor and Mia get beat all to hell, too (*draws little hearts around Connor and Mia*). To my utter shame and bewilderment, I found Ollie to be totally hot when he was taking out Solomon Grundy[1] because he was like, "NOOOO, YOU DO NOT COME BETWEEN ME AND ROY! I CUTCHOO HOR!!"

...I'm going to stop now, while I can still preserve some dignity. Not a lot, mind you, because I found Ollie hot, despite the utter dickishness.

help me. someone help me.

"I lost him once..." Er. To the smack?

Comments

[juleskicks.livejournal.com]

ARROW LOVE! They are so awesome. And Ollie hates Batman, which for all his occasional dickishness makes me love him and esteem him. <3

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

They are *so* awesome. Though I was totally gobsmacked by Connor's, er, ethnic heritage, let's call it 'cause *wow* that is some sketchy art there.

And funnily, I never really got the impression that Ollie hates Batman. He just thinks Batman is an enormous paranoid dickweed and would punch him in the face maybe a couple times. But then, this seems to be how Ollie regards like, 90% of the heroing population.

...which, I admit, I kind of dig about him.

[minim_calibre]

I'm assuming -- er, 'cause a) it's Roy and b) I'm pretty sure I saw at least one panel of them kissing -- that Donna and Roy had the mad crazy hookup at *some* point.

This is a safe assumption. They dated.

When I get a chance, I'll see which part of the Titans run that was in.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

*g* I'm just all flaily over Roy facing down a godlike being 'cause he loves Donna just that much. And also of him riding a horse. Er. And when Donna was all, "Roy's love for me is complex. He is as devoted to me as he is to his daughter's mother, the sociopathic assassin terrorist." I have no idea why that nailed me in my super sekrit soppy romantic self, but it totally did.

It is a pure love! I cuddle it and hug it and call it my squishy!

[harriet-spy.livejournal.com]

"I lost him once..." Er. To the smack?



...Wait a minute. You haven't seen "My WARD is a JUNKIE?"

!??!?!?!

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Heeee. Nope.

If it wasn't in the Arsenal mini, any of the Green Arrow trades from Quiver onwards, Outsiders, or The Death and Return of Donna Troy, I think it is a safe bet to assume I haven't seen it.

...I did see Roy in JLU. *Man*, he was fantastically gay in that.

[harriet-spy.livejournal.com]

Without "my ward is a JUNKIE?!??" you do not grasp the essence of the Roy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I can't find it! I was going to buy and that turned out to be a bust (though, *man*, I'm so totally in love with the Birds of Prey it isn't eve funny), and then I tried to find it for download, and it turns out that there aren't so much torrents of Green Arrow kicking around the internet in easily searchable places.

So I continue to live on in ignorance. Woe. Though, I mean, I think I got the *gist* of it. Oh, Ollie. Oh, Roy. Fucked up, yet functional and Seem To Have Gotten Over It.

[shrift.livejournal.com]

It's in the, um, fuck, let me run into the living room and find the volume...

It's collected in Green Lantern Green Arrow Volume 2, by Dennis O'Neil. I think I've found copies of it at Barnes and Noble before.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

My Barnes and Nobles suck for graphic novel having. My Borders are a little bit better (not much, but a little), but neither of them have it out here. hell, my *comic store* doesn't have it.

It is tragical and sad.

[shrift.livejournal.com]

Dude! Uncool!

If nobody hooks you up, I might have to scan in some of the best panels.

'Cause, see, everyone needs to see the look on Ollie's face when he hollers, "My ward, Speedy, is a JUNKIE!"

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Dude, did he really kick Roy out? 'Cause that is NOT ON, Mr. Commie Pinko Liberalpants!

I have completely glossed over the Roy and Ollie Are Fucked Up portions of Green Arrow in favor of the Roy And Ollie Are Relatively Mature Grown Ups Who Sometimes Do Dumb Shit Together And Who Share More Sex Partners Than Is Probably Healthy version.

But I am totally willing to be entertained by Ollie being a dick!

[shrift.livejournal.com]

Oh my god, so, okay. After a month, Ollie finally notices he hasn't seen Roy around -- Ollie's been off gallivanting with Hal Jordan, and, like, being more of a terrible guardian than Batman. Ollie stumbles onto a drug ring, tracks 'em down, and finds Roy in the den of iniquity. And, like, Ollie thinks Roy's undercover at first, which is nice of him, although SO NOT PAYING ATTENTION, OLLIE. Ollie and Hal try to bust up a dope ring, get jumped and pumped full of junk. Roy pulls their asses out of the fire.

And then, okay, must transcribe:

Hal: I still don't understand... why people want to poison themselves with heroin... pills... the whole sick-bag!

Roy: Maybe I can throw some light on the reason, GL!

Roy: Say a young cat has someone he respects -- looks up to... an older man!

And say the older man leaves... chases around the country... gets involved with others and ignores his young friend! Then... the guy might need a substitute for friendship --

-- he might seek it in -- junk!

Oh, Roy. Make it sound less like Ollie's your sugar-daddy-one-true-only-drug, will you?

Ollie, predictably, thinks Roy's reasoning is utter bullshit. Later, after Hal leaves, Ollie wanders over to Roy's room offering chili... AND FINDS ROY SHOOTING UP OMG.

Ollie smacks Roy around, destroys his stash. Roy verbally hands Ollie his ass, asking him if hitting Roy makes him feel more like a man. Ollie turns his head away, and tells Roy to get out. After throwing Roy out of his house, Ollie goes off to fight the war on drugs. Badly.

Hal later finds Roy in an alley, shivering and sick, coming down. Hal offers to take him to a doctor; Roy says fuck no, he's kicking heroin himself, just so he can rub it in Ollie's face. Hal says, fuck this noise, I'm taking you to Dinah.

Dinah, predictably, is awesome with Roy.

Roy, somehow, kicks heroin in a couple of days. He shows up with Dinah, telling Ollie he's clean. Ollie says, "Good boy..." Roy sucker punches him. Roy then gives a public service announcement about drugs, leaves, and Ollie watches him go with tears running down his face because his boy has just become a man!

No, seriously, that's the caption.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I find that both appalling and hysterically funny.

Oh, Dinah and Roy. Totally my sekrit het otp of wrong.

[gloss]

Oh, Sheila. You cannot live until you've seen Roy get off the drugs and then spend the 1980s FIGHTING DRUG CRIME.

A taste. *g* Let me know if you want more.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

*blink* I knew he became Mr. Drugs Are Bad Mm-kay? guy, but I have not seen any of it. Because of that part where I cannot *find* any of it. Er. Also that I would not legitimately pay for it, 'cause I am po'.

So, you know, whatever you wanted to show me would be grand and I say to you what I said to Min: ask for whatever you want and if it's within my power to give it, I will.

Also, are you around? Because I am around! And we could be around, you know, at the same time.