h8erade: faux academia edition
May. 8th, 2006 04:38 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
mimesereSo, I don't actually hate Virginia Woolf. She is never going to be a desert island author for me, but I don't hate her. The only reason I bring her up is because today I totally got into a brawl we had a discussion of Mrs. Dalloway in class.
It ended up being Team Yay Peter vs Me, and I mostly took the position of, "Peter is a dickhead and, IMO, a worse choice for Clarissa than Richard." But it did degenerate into, "But Clarissa and Peter were more passionate!" and me going, "More passionate does not equal BETTER," and also, "IT IS NOT A ROMANCE OMGWTF." Which argument train, happily, I got my teacher on as well.
And then I finally summed up my position with regards to the romantic, erotic, and passionate interludes of one Mrs. Clarissa Dalloway as, "Both men are dickheads though I maintain that Richard is marginally less of a dick than Peter, Clarissa is a lesbian anyway, and whatever, like Sally's a prize."
I am totallly not on board the mocking of hostessly skills or on Clarissa's life choices as it seems to me that the basic argument against them was, "But she would have been a better realized person with Peter to challenge her!" I do not buy it and I don't find myself entirely in charity with the idea that to be a whole and realized human being, one must choose against conventionality. It did not seem to me -- as was put forth by Team Yay Peter -- that Clarissa Dalloway was ditzy or frivolous. Do I think she was happy? No. But neither do I think she would have been happy with Peter (or, truthfully, Sally, though I think Sally would have lasted longer).
And anyway, Peter has no job and strikes me as being a useless ass.
...I really, really hated him, man.
ETA: also, I am totally bored and hyper and people should come talk to me on AIM (screen name = mimesere).
It ended up being Team Yay Peter vs Me, and I mostly took the position of, "Peter is a dickhead and, IMO, a worse choice for Clarissa than Richard." But it did degenerate into, "But Clarissa and Peter were more passionate!" and me going, "More passionate does not equal BETTER," and also, "IT IS NOT A ROMANCE OMGWTF." Which argument train, happily, I got my teacher on as well.
And then I finally summed up my position with regards to the romantic, erotic, and passionate interludes of one Mrs. Clarissa Dalloway as, "Both men are dickheads though I maintain that Richard is marginally less of a dick than Peter, Clarissa is a lesbian anyway, and whatever, like Sally's a prize."
I am totallly not on board the mocking of hostessly skills or on Clarissa's life choices as it seems to me that the basic argument against them was, "But she would have been a better realized person with Peter to challenge her!" I do not buy it and I don't find myself entirely in charity with the idea that to be a whole and realized human being, one must choose against conventionality. It did not seem to me -- as was put forth by Team Yay Peter -- that Clarissa Dalloway was ditzy or frivolous. Do I think she was happy? No. But neither do I think she would have been happy with Peter (or, truthfully, Sally, though I think Sally would have lasted longer).
And anyway, Peter has no job and strikes me as being a useless ass.
...I really, really hated him, man.
ETA: also, I am totally bored and hyper and people should come talk to me on AIM (screen name = mimesere).
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Date: 2006-05-09 03:06 am (UTC)I didn't think you'd be Team Yay Richard or Yay Peter or even Yay Sally. I did think you might be Yay Septimus, though.
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Date: 2006-05-09 03:14 am (UTC)I am very fond of Clarissa and Septimus both. Um. Everyone else was not so much with the liking.
And yes! Cursed time zones! *shakes fist at them in impotent frustration*