dear fandom

[mimesere]

if we could avoid writing fic in which basically nice, decent people are suddenly ABUSIVE ASSHOLES*, I would really appreciate it.

with a moue of distaste,
s.

*please feel free to replace "ABUSIVE ASSHOLE" with any of the following: Randomly Evil, ZOMG DARK AND TORTURED, "Morally Ambiguous" (when morally ambiguous just means self-centered dick. i.e., 90% of the time), Self-Hating Queer/Woman/Person of Color, Child Molester, etc.

Comments

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

...You know what I recommend in this case, Sheila? NEVER GO LOOKING FOR RAY/GERARD FICS, oh my god.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

...seriously? People seriously go to that place with RAY AND GERARD?

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

Dude, you have no idea. There is very little of the pairing to begin with? And of what little there is, a shockingly high percentage involves rape and/or emotional abuse.

[erilyn.livejournal.com]

Can I butt in and ask (though I'm sure I'll regret it) - who is tending to be the abuser? Cause I can't wrap my brain around it, either way.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I will bet it's Ray. I will bet you ANYTHING it is Ray.

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

Ray 90% of the time, definitely. Always when there's rape. Sometimes Ray is so in love with Gerard that he can't leave him, despite Gerard being a self-centered closeted asshole, though.

[erilyn.livejournal.com]

::weeps for humanity::

This is making my brain hurt. Even more so than Gabe always being evil, at least that's normally just in AUs where he's a generic bad guy.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Oh dude, I read that story! The self-centered closeted asshole Gerard story. Ugh.

This is the face I am making right now: :(((((((

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

Dude, was it the one where Ray is a HUGE ASS PUSHOVER, but there was no other Ray/Gerard and I found myself sucked in anyway?

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

Probably! Did it involve Gerard's emotional fuckedupedness making Ray puke every night?

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

Poss...ibly? Was there throwing of glassware in fits of passive aggressive rage?

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Is it bad that I kind of want to re-read it now?

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

Not in the slightest! I have the urge myself sometimes! Only, then I start, and I have to quit because of the rage. As of now, however, it's really the only thing going re: Gerard/Ray. And you can't say it doesn't bring the emotional porn when needed, because it's got that in spades.

[erilyn.livejournal.com]

...

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...

I may need to go reboot my brain if that's the case. I've come across pre-sober asshole Gerard stories, but Ray? Just...what?

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I know, right? Because you know, when I think of Dudes Who Could Potentially Be Abusive Assholes, my mind immediately goes to RAY TORO.

[erilyn.livejournal.com]

Run, Gerard, run!

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

He only hurts Gerard because he loves him.

[erilyn.livejournal.com]

His evilness is all so obvious now - he is part of Gabe's cobra cult, and Gabe is evil incarnate.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

That makes me sad in my soul.

(RAY and GERARD? REALLY? because. seriously, erica, an 8 year old girl in a tutu with a unicorn charm bracelet is more likely to be an abusive asshole than those guys.)

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

Sheila. I WOULD NOT MAKE THIS UP. I WOULD NOT BE *ABLE* TO MAKE THIS UP.

(There are an awful lot of random abusive asshole syndrome in gerard/mikey stories, too, but I can kind of excuse it by assuming that they're writing incest anyway just for that kink. With Ray/Gerard i don't get it AT ALLLLLLLLL. THEY ARE THE SAPPIEST BOYFRIENDS IN EXISTENCE STOP THAT RIGHT NOW.)

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I will never understand the need to make NICE PEOPLE into raging psychotic assholes.

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

What, you don't see it? That's totally a dude who likes to slap his boyfriend around and call him a whore.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Well of course he does. Gerard *asks* for it, you know.



If Gerard would just stop making Ray so mad, he wouldn't get hurt.

[pearl-o.livejournal.com]

He didn't MEAN to make him mad! He'll do better!

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

...I don't even have a hilariously inappropriate comment to make. Just a picture of them being GIANT NERDS.

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THIS! You know, in the interests of fair play and all.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

I read a story where that happened and I felt the need to scrub my brain.

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

If it's the one I'm thinking about? Then I read it too, and prayed for the brain bleach.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

There are SO MANY OF THEM.

WHY GOD WHY?

[missmollyetc.livejournal.com]

IT'S BECAUSE WE LET THE EVIL WIN, MAN. WE LET IT WIN!

[scalesandfins.livejournal.com]

I first went "tsk" at your post and now THE HELL??? at the fresh hells revealed in the comments. Oh man. *pets you*

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Abusive asshole Patrick Stump! Abusive rapist Ray Toro! Emotionally abusive dick Gerard! Child molester Norrington! Gay rapist Norrington! Child molester Qui-Gon Jinn!

just. fandom, why? WHY?

[scalesandfins.livejournal.com]

Well, Qui-Gon Jinn *does* perpetrate credit-card fraud. I mean, come on, Sheila, let's be realistic here. If a man's willing to do that, what WON'T he do???

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

*giggles and giggles*

[go-gentle.livejournal.com]

Something like that scrolled by on my flist recently and I was about to click the link out of some sort of Pavlovian reflex. Then higher brain function kicked in and I was like, 'self, you do not really want to read that.' *borrows brain bleach for all the times I didn't manage to save myself*

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Man, I don't even understand how these characterizations start. Like, fandom, seriously. What?

[forensicgirl.livejournal.com]

Agreed. Although it could be worse-at least your fandom doesn't have pregnant cars.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

That's true. We just have...other things.

[forensicgirl.livejournal.com]

At least pregnant cars make good crackfic. AbusiveRayToro just makes me go *headdesk*.

[wemblee.livejournal.com]

You saw the Norrington story, didn't you.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Oh god, is there ANOTHER ONE?

This post was prompted by Abusive Asshole Patrick Stump and then devolved into Abusive Rapist Ray Toro WTF.

[girlneedsagun.livejournal.com]

ahahah I totally knew which fic you were refering to. I saw that posted and I was like "Ummmm...yeah, no".

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

Just, dude, WTF! Like. DUDES LEAST LIKELY, you know?