oh *fandom*

[mimesere]

sometimes you make me want to cry. and/or punch people.

but hey! On the other hand, now I totally know who to avoid in fandom! So...that's a plus. *tries to look on the bright side*

(god, it JUST KEEPS GOING and horrifies me more and more).

ETA: the posts in question
In which Teyla and Ronon are white! No, really! - I swear, the more I hear about race relations in, um, England/Ireland/Wales/Scotland/what-have-you, the less likely I am to ever ever go there.

and!

In which the reason there's not more fic about characters of color is because they are not leads! or not hot enough! or interesting enough! Because when they *are*, there's a lot of fic! No, really!

Comments

[brigid31.livejournal.com]

Was that first post written in some sort of parallel universe. I've been avoiding recent SGA wank (mostly cause I don't follow that show and most of these seem to go like this "This might be racist" "It totally is not and here is why" "Umm, not so much." lather rinse repeat. And also it generally wants to make me yell "Own your shit! You might be a little racist because we live in a racist society and you probably internalized at least a little" but that first post you linked to is majorly bizarre.

I mean race is a social construct but you aren't going to tell me that you just didn't notice. I feel like no matter how many discussions happen people aren't going to learn anything becase they don't actually want to be less racist.

[mimesere.livejournal.com]

The first post was written by an Irish fan. So, I am going to chalk up the parallel universe feel to just...weirdly and incredibly vast cultural differences.

What killed me in the comments to that first post are the *Americans* who were like, "I didn't notice! I thought Teyla and Ronon were white!" And for them I just sort of go, "...REALLY?" and don't know what to do.

People are just tan, I guess.

[brigid31.livejournal.com]

I have a friend from Argentina who did say that in South America it would be odd to classify people like Jennifer Beals as black because people aren't socialized to think of light skinned black people as black. So I accept it but that does not excuse Americans making that claim. The sheer amount of things you would have to ignore. The mind boggles.